Should I wrap the window trim or not???

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Should I wrap the window trim or not???

#1 Post by Chip » Mon Apr 11, 2011 4:44 pm

Should I wrap the window trim or not???

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#2 Post by buddy110 » Mon Apr 11, 2011 4:47 pm

That depends

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#3 Post by Chip » Mon Apr 11, 2011 4:53 pm

buddy110 wrote:That depends

My wood trim is not rotted and is in good shape. I've heard good and bad about wrapping the trim. What is the opinion of the board?

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#4 Post by buddy110 » Mon Apr 11, 2011 4:57 pm

Chip wrote:
buddy110 wrote:That depends

My wood trim is not rotted and is in good shape. I've heard good and bad about wrapping the trim. What is the opinion of the board?
I can't speak for the entire board but I've never had any issues with wrapping them As long as they are properly sealed from the elements they should last 20 years without any negative affects

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#5 Post by Windows on Washington » Mon Apr 11, 2011 5:13 pm

buddy110 wrote:
Chip wrote:
buddy110 wrote:That depends

My wood trim is not rotted and is in good shape. I've heard good and bad about wrapping the trim. What is the opinion of the board?
I can't speak for the entire board but I've never had any issues with wrapping them As long as they are properly sealed from the elements they should last 20 years without any negative affects

+1

Proper technique and sealants will last a very long time.

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#6 Post by HomeSealed » Mon Apr 11, 2011 6:25 pm

+3. Even if you had any rot issues, a good professional company would replace those pieces prior to wrap. The wrap will offer a superior seal, as well as less maintenance.

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Re: Should I wrap the window trim or not???

#7 Post by Chip » Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:41 pm

Is it worth paying 50.00 a window to wrap? I can't decide if I should pay 500.00 for my ten windows.

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#8 Post by buddy110 » Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:43 pm

Again difficult to say. If it's a good professional job yes, that's a pretty darned good price. I suspect you'll pay more that that to maintain the wood over time. If it's a so so job maybe not

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#9 Post by toddinmn » Mon Apr 11, 2011 10:59 pm

$50 is pretty cheap, I'd say to cheap.Only wrap jobs I've seen done that cheap are by illegals,friends, uninsured, or crap jobs. A bad wrap can cause a lot of damage and can be hard to spot after they caulk it.

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#10 Post by HomeSealed » Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:34 am

I agree again, $50 is on the lower end for a trim wrap. If you do have it done, take note of how much time is spent installing the windows in comparison to how much is spent on the trim. The bending and installation of the metal is actually the more labor intensive and tedious task, imo. One thing that you didn't mention is how the windows are being installed. If they are being installed from the inside mouldings removed), then you could really go either way. If it is from the outside so as not to disturb your interior woodwork, then it would be highly advisable to do the wrapping, as the exterior (blind) stops are cut off. Some guys replace them and some do not, but either way it is unsightly if left with no additional finishing. The same could actually be said if you have storm windows existing that will be removed. Typically when they are taken off it will leave a bunch of holes, split wood, etc.

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#11 Post by Chip » Tue Apr 12, 2011 3:42 pm

HomeSealed wrote:I agree again, $50 is on the lower end for a trim wrap. If you do have it done, take note of how much time is spent installing the windows in comparison to how much is spent on the trim. The bending and installation of the metal is actually the more labor intensive and tedious task, imo. One thing that you didn't mention is how the windows are being installed. If they are being installed from the inside mouldings removed), then you could really go either way. If it is from the outside so as not to disturb your interior woodwork, then it would be highly advisable to do the wrapping, as the exterior (blind) stops are cut off. Some guys replace them and some do not, but either way it is unsightly if left with no additional finishing. The same could actually be said if you have storm windows existing that will be removed. Typically when they are taken off it will leave a bunch of holes, split wood, etc.
Great info! They are going to replace from the inside. Thanks for taking the time to answer my question with such detail.

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#12 Post by windowmike » Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:00 am

IMO
Coordinate wrap/capping with install so sill wrap runs underneath new window
Caulking will be on top of wrap/capping
Insist on low expansion foam under sill before sill extender goes on and into jamb and head voids
If existing windows have weight pockets get them foam filled too.
Buy installers lunch if impressed by workmanship

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#13 Post by rugmankc » Fri Aug 12, 2011 5:33 pm

Sorry to resurrect a 4 month old thread, but this poses two questions I have been thinking about


I have 1X4 wood trims around my windows and said I wanted them capped. They are flush with the outside of the window. When wanting to change and not cap, was told no discount--? You mention 50.00 as low to do that.

Also, both companies I talked to so far use actual insulation around window, no foam. Seems this board and some of it's experts are recommending low density foam. Maybe that is only for the lower sash and not sides and top? What is correct?


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#14 Post by HomeSealed » Fri Aug 12, 2011 6:03 pm

Low expansion foam is recommended on all 4 sides. I typically see window wraps in the $65 to $85 range.... although, I will say that 95% of professional window installs (at least around here) are wrapped, so a guy could come in with a cheaper wrap price and make it up via a higher window price. If your installers are saying that there is no price difference either way, that seems strange to me.

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#15 Post by rugmankc » Fri Aug 12, 2011 6:31 pm

Well, it is the Salesperson for the company, not installer. He says they would have to cap or finish it in some way anyhow. I would assume whatever that is would not be as extensive as wrapping 1X4 wood trim around whole window. A neighbor a street up has same house with no capping at all as far as I can tell. The windows sit inside the wood trim with no gap to insert anything. House is T1-11 siding. They may just be caulked--don't know.

I will question the two companies or whoever I go with on the foam vs insulation. They said foam will not keep a tight seal. I trust you guys.

I am having a third company come out that is a remodeling company and has a good rep. Will see what they say. They have the Polaris UltraWeld that seems to be adequate for my needs.

Whatever we go with will probably do what another pro recommended on this site and that is get the better window and do one half now and other have later. Can afford that better and get to see their work. For me that would be fall and spring. Then have them side the following fall/spring. There are no windows on either side of house. Just front and back. So, only one side can be seen at any given time. Not that that may matter unless same window is not available in spring.


Ken

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