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Repair or replace?

#1 Post by Sweet Lew » Sat Oct 15, 2011 12:10 pm

Greetings All!

I have a dilemma. I moved into my house 2.5 years ago. During this time, there were two window air conditioners that were permanently installed (wood boards screwed into the window, caulked, etc) and were in the windows for almost 10 years (previous owners installed them). Due to water leakage this year, I had them removed. Once removed, it looked like the bottom sashes of both windows were beat to hell from all the caulk + getting them out needed some force.

The windows in question are 1997 Andersen 400 series Tilt 'n' Wash. I had a contractor come out that has done repairs for me on my Andersen casements and said I will need new bottom sashes and a few other small items (Replace lock on one, jams on another). Depending on the price, and I know Andersen parts can be pricey, do I repair them or replace them with Okna 800 series double hungs if the price to repair them is the same or close to the price of replacing them with new vinyl replacements?

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Re: Repair or replace?

#2 Post by Windows on Washington » Sat Oct 15, 2011 5:17 pm

If it were me, if the repairs approach 35-40% of the replacements, I would definitely opt for the new replacements.

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Re: Repair or replace?

#3 Post by Sweet Lew » Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:48 pm

Thanks for the reply.

Are the 400 series any good? I've read mixed reviews and it seems Andersens are somewhat regarded as sub par windows no matter what the level. :?

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#4 Post by Windows on Washington » Sun Oct 16, 2011 2:12 pm

Sweet Lew wrote:Thanks for the reply.

Are the 400 series any good? I've read mixed reviews and it seems Andersens are somewhat regarded as sub par windows no matter what the level. :?
400 is a pretty solid window.

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Re: Repair or replace?

#5 Post by Sweet Lew » Sun Oct 16, 2011 4:47 pm

Good to know. I had a mish\mash of windows in this house. I just replaced 7 rotted out Kolbe\Kolbe casements with Okna casements. But I'll probably go with your advice depending on what the repair costs are.

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Re: Repair or replace?

#6 Post by HomeSealed » Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:49 pm

I would not say that the 400 is sub-par by any stretch, that being said, I'd much rather have the Okna 800. If you already have some installed, I would put any and all funds toward "finishing the job" with the Oknas.

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#7 Post by Windows on Washington » Sun Oct 16, 2011 8:27 pm

HomeSealed wrote:I would not say that the 400 is sub-par by any stretch, that being said, I'd much rather have the Okna 800. If you already have some installed, I would put any and all funds toward "finishing the job" with the Oknas.
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I didn't know you already had the Okna casements. Why not finish out with them?

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Re: Repair or replace?

#8 Post by Sweet Lew » Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:10 pm

I want to eventually replace the older Andersens (installed in 1991) with Okna, but I have other projects that need to be done, like replacing my galvanized plumbing with copper. :roll: If the repairs are considerably less than new windows, I will probably repair them.

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#9 Post by TheWindowNerd » Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:40 am

The next question might be do you do a full tearout/fullframe replacement or just an insert replacement.
If the existing frames are in good shape, check the sills carefully, then an insert approach is OK.
The best approach but most expensive is the full tearout/full frame replacement.
Some of the advantages are that you start from the RO and can foam/insulate between the studs and window. Also you will maintain glass dimension. Some might say that new trim on the interior is a benefit as well.

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Re: Repair or replace?

#10 Post by Sweet Lew » Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:19 am

I think all that is needed is the bottom sash for both, a lock on one, and jamb liners on another. Otherwise, he said everything else was fine.

If I went with OKNA replacements, I would be using Dave (Windows4U) and his approach is removing the old window and inspecting the existing frame to see if it is OK or if it needs to be replaced.

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#11 Post by TheWindowNerd » Mon Oct 17, 2011 12:02 pm

You have one of the best in our industry with Windows4U.
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