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 Post subject: Okna Elegante Patio Door/Starmark Windows
PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 3:39 pm 

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Is $4700 a good price for two Elegante patio doors and 3 Starmark windows?


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 Post subject: Re: Okna Elegante Patio Door/Starmark Windows
PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 3:40 pm 

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Yes and no.


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 Post subject: Re: Okna Elegante Patio Door/Starmark Windows
PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 3:52 pm 

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Can you please tell me what would make it a good price or if I should get other quotes? We already paid too much the first time and are trying not to make the same mistake? Thanks!


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 Post subject: Re: Okna Elegante Patio Door/Starmark Windows
PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 3:55 pm 

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How about some details?

Prices vary from dealer to dealer and no installation is exactly like another. If you are unsure about whether the price is reasonable, then I would suggest you get a few more estimates. That way you won't make the same mistake twice.


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 Post subject: Re: Okna Elegante Patio Door/Starmark Windows
PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 3:59 pm 
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+1

Totally dependent on installation requirements, details, options, etc.


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 Post subject: Re: Okna Elegante Patio Door/Starmark Windows
PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 4:21 pm 

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2 PD8800 Eelgante Series patio doors with two point locking system
2 Starmark Series DH with full screens
1 Starmark Series picture window

Price includes removal of old doors and windows and intallation of new ones.


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 Post subject: Re: Okna Elegante Patio Door/Starmark Windows
PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 4:24 pm 
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Two patio doors and three Starmark windows for $4700? Sounds low for that product even with the most basic install/options... Details would help though as mentioned above (ie: colors, replacement vs full tearout, RRP (does your home have lead paint), any rotted wood, etc.)


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 Post subject: Re: Okna Elegante Patio Door/Starmark Windows
PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 4:31 pm 

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I'll try one more time.

What size are the doors?
What size are the windows?
What glass packages are you looking at?
What are your existing windows made out of?
Does it include grids?
What's involved in the installation?
What year was your house built?
What is the installer using for insulating the jambs?
Does it include cladding the frames?
What color are they?

Have you gotten any competitive quotes?


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 Post subject: Re: Okna Elegante Patio Door/Starmark Windows
PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:04 pm 

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1. 71h x 80h
2. Bay Windows: 46w x 53h picture window (1), 28w x 53h dh windows (2)
3.a. Patio Doors: Double-Pane 4mm Tempered Low-E + Argon HeatSeal Deluxe 0.26 U-Value
3.b. Windows: Double-Pane Low-E + Argon Hi-Performance
4. Wood
5. No
6.a. Patio Doors: Remove & replace doors/frames, insulate, new casings
6.b. Windows: Remove & replace windows/frames, insulate, new caps, full screens
7. 1969
8. Polyurethane Spray Foam
9. Patio Door Frames are UPVC vinyl extrusions, advertised as thicker than competition, and Window Frames are composite; no other reinforcement
10. White

11. Yes, and this one came in less expensive


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 Post subject: Re: Okna Elegante Patio Door/Starmark Windows
PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:17 pm 

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I think you have done very well.

Have they tested for lead paint yet?


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 Post subject: Re: Okna Elegante Patio Door/Starmark Windows
PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:20 am 

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Did either bidder ask how old the house was?
Did either give you a Renovate Right brochure?
If you answer no to the second question you need to find other contractors.


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 Post subject: Re: Okna Elegante Patio Door/Starmark Windows
PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:31 am 
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anthony wrote:
Did either bidder ask how old the house was?
Did either give you a Renovate Right brochure?
If you answer no to the second question you need to find other contractors.

I don't give that out until I deliver the contract... There is really no reason to give them out at the time of the quote, so I would not disqualify someone based on that.


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 Post subject: Re: Okna Elegante Patio Door/Starmark Windows
PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:40 am 

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I provide the brochure with the contract as well.


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 Post subject: Re: Okna Elegante Patio Door/Starmark Windows
PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:46 am 

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+2

That's the way we do it too. After a positive test for lead paint.


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 Post subject: Re: Okna Elegante Patio Door/Starmark Windows
PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:53 pm 

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one thing i would like to add is the price. i am mystified as to how you recieved a price that low and the contractor not lose money. i am not implying that something nefarious is at work because i dont think thats the case. i am utterly shocked. that price isnt just low, its crazy low. oll be scratching mynhead for abfew months on this one.


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