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 Post subject: Re: Feedback on NE Ohio quote
PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:46 pm 

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Signed the contract with Window Universe for the Okna 600 series last week and had the installer out to measure.

Was impressed that he popped the trim and several of the questionable windows to get an accurate measurement and put all the trim back up.

One thing that leaves me slightly apprehensive (too late to change my mind, but I'll keep pushing for more info if it's in my best interest) was the installer's description of the last few steps for the full-frame tear out. It's all pretty standard, but I don't want to be dependent on caulk alone to seal these windows, as they do not have a nailing flange.

Remove all interior trim
Cut existing window frame out of it's nailing flange
Remove sashes and collapse old frame
MAYBE cut back siding
Replace any moisture damaged lumber in rough opening
Put the new window in place
Level and square the unit
Foam seal the air gaps
Caulk between frame and J-channel
MAYBE coil-wrap depending on size of the gap

I called the office this evening and am waiting to hear back from the installer, but the person in the office seemed to think there was more "technical" stuff involved and the caulk was just a final measure of protection and to clean up the appearance.


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 Post subject: Re: Feedback on NE Ohio quote
PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:07 pm 
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Seems pretty normal. Wrapping is pretty standard.


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 Post subject: Re: Feedback on NE Ohio quote
PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:14 pm 

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Thanks. It's entirely possible I'm just overly concerned given the visible moisture damage on the old windows.

I can't imagine their service would be so well reviewed if they really were skimping somewhere.


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 Post subject: Re: Feedback on NE Ohio quote
PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 6:56 am 
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Probably a safe bet you are right. Nothing wrong with asking questions on the day of installation as long as you aren't in the way.

If you order lunch or have cold refreshments, the guys/gals will love working hard for you.


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 Post subject: Re: Feedback on NE Ohio quote
PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:45 am 
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As I believe was mentioned earlier in the thread, there are a few different methods of replacing a full frame, and that is one of them. There are ways to do so that are more comprehensive, but also significantly pricier. Overall, it sounds like you have have a reputable company, great window, and an installation procedure that is recognized and accepted in the industry, so nothing to fret about.


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 Post subject: Re: Feedback on NE Ohio quote
PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:39 pm 

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Thanks to all of your for the information.

Sounds like we're about 4 weeks out, then we'll have brand new Okna 600s.


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 Post subject: Re: Feedback on NE Ohio quote
PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:15 am 
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Solid choice and congrats. Post up some before and after photos to help button up the thread.


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 Post subject: Re: Feedback on NE Ohio quote
PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2017 9:32 pm 

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Installation is finally complete! The new windows look great and we can already feel a difference inside.

We're handling the trim ourselves as we wanted something more custom than the standard picture frame. Something similar to this https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/73 ... 7615e3.jpg


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 Post subject: Re: Feedback on NE Ohio quote
PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2017 4:15 am 

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Not a fan of MDF for trim.
I would tend to build that head on my work table and put it up there all in one piece.
I like a solid back crwn like rams head.
And I have used sash bead for the bootom of that assembly.

theWindowNerd.


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 Post subject: Re: Feedback on NE Ohio quote
PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2017 10:33 am 

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I'm not a fan of MDF either. There's a lumber yard that was suggested to us by the installation crew that seems to have a huge selection of casing, crown and other trim work. Since we'll be painting it we don't need any of the premium wood types, but I'm certain everything they have will be better quality than at a big box store.

Thanks for the tip on assembling the header on the work table. That does sound quite a bit easier.


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