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 Post subject: Wisconsin buyer - narrowed selection -advice please
PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2017 11:18 pm 

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Live in Northeast Wisconsin and looking to replace 20 windows and patio door with mid-grade windows.

after online searching and reading posts on this board I have narrowed the field to four choices in no particular order

-Okna 500 Insul-Tec
-Sunrise Standard
-Milgard Tuscany
-Simonton Reflections 5500

Local supply stores handle Vector and Alliance but after reading posts here have eliminated these two.

Thoughts appreciated!

THANK YOU!


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 Post subject: Re: Wisconsin buyer - narrowed selection -advice please
PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 8:27 am 

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The order is quite accurate actually. The Okna 500 is, by a fair margin, the best of the bunch. If the pricing is close to the others you’re getting a great deal.


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 Post subject: Re: Wisconsin buyer - narrowed selection -advice please
PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 11:23 am 
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+1 to randy's feedback.

You, maybe unintentionally, listed them out dead on accurate.


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 Post subject: Re: Wisconsin buyer - narrowed selection -advice please
PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2017 5:17 pm 
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Any updates?

Who was the Okna dealer in this case?


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 Post subject: Re: Wisconsin buyer - narrowed selection -advice please
PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2017 7:50 pm 

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requested dealer names from all four. There is a Sunrise and Simonton dealer in our area - no Milgard though. Will call Okna tomorrow


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 Post subject: Re: Wisconsin buyer - narrowed selection -advice please
PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 10:05 am 

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Milgard is only distributes in the western region of the country these days.
Your product winners are the Sunrise and the Okna 500 there imo. A significant step up from the others.
Also, I have to ask, is the username "big guy shopping", or "big guys hopping" lol. I think I prefer the latter for entertainment value


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 Post subject: Re: Wisconsin buyer - narrowed selection -advice please
PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 10:14 am 
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How far North in Wisconsin are you?


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 Post subject: Re: Wisconsin buyer - narrowed selection -advice please
PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 8:59 pm 

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Appleton, just 30 miles south of Green Bay.

Do you know anyone knowledgeable in this area?


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 Post subject: Re: Wisconsin buyer - narrowed selection -advice please
PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 5:12 am 

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One of the countries best fenestration specialist operates in Wisconsin. His post on this forum are as Homesealed, i think you are a little far for Brandon to travel to but he may know a few people in your area.
If you want vinyl you can try Windows of Wisconsin, they are Infinity and Soft-lite dealer. Soft-lite would be the vinyl choice, Imp LS.

theWindowNered.


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 Post subject: Re: Wisconsin buyer - narrowed selection -advice please
PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 11:05 pm 

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update:

Am getting estimates for Simonton and Sunrise but also took at second look at Vector (almost nothing on the internet on these) at

http://search.nfrc.org/search/cpd/cpd_s ... m=RRT-K-46

numbers looked good against Simonton


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 Post subject: Re: Wisconsin buyer - narrowed selection -advice please
PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 4:46 am 

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Hopefully Brandon will share what your SHGC should be for your region also the condensation resistance.
What you do not see is the AI/AL test reports. Do you get any wind or air current where you live? AI/AL measures air leakage/air infiltration, how much draft the window allows. The lower the number the better. My suggestion is .05 or less.


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 Post subject: Re: Wisconsin buyer - narrowed selection -advice please
PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 2:51 pm 
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bigguy, the thermal numbers on the Vector are not bad, particularly with 272 glass. As Nerd was alluding to, the 366 glass will not be doing you any favors in this climate. They are a VERY small company (my research showed about $5mm in revenue), and definitely geared more toward the new construction market. The structural ratings aren't all that bad either, at .05 AI and Dp40. These are not top tier numbers, but solid none the less.

You won't find an Okna 800/500 dealer in your neck of the woods. You are definitely at the outer limits of our service area if we really stretch it, but feel free to reach out if you decide that is the product that you really like or if we can help in any other way, even if it is just somewhat locally based advice.


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 Post subject: Re: Wisconsin buyer - narrowed selection -advice please
PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 6:12 pm 

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Thank you!

I called Okna and they told me their local dealer was Tundraland, which is a big, high pressure sales company. I called Tundraland to find out what lines of Okna Window they carry and never got a call back.

There isn't much online about Vector, but after seeing the numbers (quoted was the 272) on the website and the price, we just may go with that unless the Sunrise dealer gives us an offer we cant refuse.

We do have an installer that will be replacing all windows and siding on the house. He redid our front porch and did a fantastic job. Slow but very particular.


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 Post subject: Re: Wisconsin buyer - narrowed selection -advice please
PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:59 am 
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Finding the line that you want is the key part of that. Not sure on what Tundraland is offering these days, but I don't believe its an Okna 800/500

As I mentioned earlier, the Vector window doesn't seem half bad and should probably do fine for you. My only concern would be due to the size and brief history that the company will be around long term. Selling a better performing window for a higher price has not historically been a winning combo in the new construction/distribution realm, but that's purely speculation on my part.


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 Post subject: Re: Wisconsin buyer - narrowed selection -advice please
PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 10:57 am 

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BGS
contact Brandon at Homesealed, I am sure he can provide a supply only bid for you.

theWindowNerd.


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