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 Post subject: Okna or ForceV Enviromental (Schuco)
PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:00 am 

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Window pros any feedback on forceV enviromental or Okna Windows would be appreciated.
We are researching both to find the BEST product out there. Using SoftLite (Imperial LS) now but looking to RAISE the bar on a manufacturer with better service and LESS glass issues. Also looking for a window that looks good and has good numbers. Looking forward to some good, SOLID info.


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 Post subject: Re: Okna or Force Environmental (Schuco)
PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:57 pm 

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I don't think anyone could give you solid information on Force V since the plant didn't even open yet.


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 Post subject: Re: Okna or ForceV Enviromental (Schuco)
PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 4:35 pm 
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where are you located? Region has much to do with service effectiveness.


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 Post subject: Re: Okna or ForceV Enviromental (Schuco)
PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 11:26 pm 

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We are in Central Pennsylvania.


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 Post subject: Re: Okna or ForceV Enviromental (Schuco)
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I have great results with Simonton 5500 series.Customers like them and very little call back.


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 Post subject: Re: Okna or ForceV Enviromental (Schuco)
PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 8:52 pm 

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WindowEDU, I'd be interested in communicating with you about Soft-lite. I met with them on Friday and I was planning on picking up the line.

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 Post subject: Re: Okna or ForceV Enviromental (Schuco)
PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:23 am 

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Randy, Softlite has a great product line. We mainly sold the Imperial LS and customers really seemed to like it. However, we had to many glass issues with them so we switched to OKNA windows. We are mainly selling the Starmark line (cellular composite). We have been very pleased with the product and ZERO glass issues. Okna does their glass packs IN-House where Softlite outsources their glass packs. Based on 20-years in the industry I've found manufacturers that make the glass packs within the factory have better success than those that outsource. It could be that we spot more issues with the glass because all our employees wash the wds inside and out when completed. If we would not have experienced so many glitches in the glass from Soft-lite we may have NOT stopped offering them.


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 Post subject: Re: Okna or ForceV Enviromental (Schuco)
PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:22 pm 

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Gorell is in Indiana, PA and do their own in-house glass.

I like local folks to keep profits in the community; unfortunately, my state only has crappy manufacturers like Pella vinyl, Pennco, Viwintek, Sun and Rogers. Okna profits go to Poland.

We have had a few glass issues with Softlite but you are not the 1st to state some issues. The issues I have with them are being resolved as my new softlite rep is an old friend.

Nothing like selling hoppers for the tax credit then wondering where the nfrc stickers are- their hoppers are not tested by nfrc and do not qualify. Would have been nice to know this up front and not wait tell the things show up at the dock. :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: Okna or ForceV Enviromental (Schuco)
PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 3:32 am 

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JScott, who's hopper wds are you referring to?


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 Post subject: Re: Okna or ForceV Enviromental (Schuco)
PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:11 pm 

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I had similar issues with softlite. Edge seal are pigs and let some real crap go out of their plant.

I have to say though, The Cs at SL was very good


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