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 Post subject: constant force vs block and tackle
PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:31 pm 

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which is a better balance system?


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 8:47 pm 

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I'll get arguments with this but I prefer constant force foir vinyl windows.


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 Post subject: Re: constant force vs block and tackle
PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 9:29 pm 
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USNAT1NC1RET wrote:
which is a better balance system?


Most vinyl companies use constant force but there are some fairly premium lines that utilize block and tackle.

All are better than previous models and should live a long time worry free.

Block and tackle is more preferable in new construction applications because it is less sensitive to construction debris.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:33 pm 
constant force is far better and some brands can be adjusted


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clear choice usa of dc wrote:
constant force is far better and some brands can be adjusted


Far better...?

You are posting up on a bunch of threads spouting off things that you obviously don't know.

why don't you tell me which system is better for new construction of which system has tested to more cycles of use.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 10:39 am 
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In the real world, either is good and most companies warranty them for life in their warranty
Like WoW said, either is vastly preferable to the spiral balances of the past.

Counterbalances have gone from being my most prevalent service issue in my first 20 years in this business to being an almost non-existent service issue over the last 10 years.


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After thinking about it, the last service call I had on a balancer was about 10 years ago and the factory sent me a new one for a very large double hung that needed a stronger unit. Window4U is right it has become a non issue. The constant force is best for longivity, and the block and tackle maybe shines a little for a dh over a kitchen sink and is replaced easier but in 99% of the windows out there both solved the longivity issue and are miles ahead of the old spiral system.


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 Post subject: CF vs. B&T
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Windows on Washington wrote:
why don't you tell me which system is better for new construction of which system has tested to more cycles of use.

From what I've heard the block and tackle system tests several times longer for cycles of use. I would say the block and tackle is better for longevity. Go figure. Like the other posts have stated, however, both types are much more problem free than balance systems from 20 years ago. I'm actually fine with either one.


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 Post subject: Re: CF vs. B&T
PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:38 pm 
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Tru_blue wrote:
Windows on Washington wrote:
why don't you tell me which system is better for new construction of which system has tested to more cycles of use.

From what I've heard the block and tackle system tests several times longer for cycles of use. I would say the block and tackle is better for longevity. Go figure. Like the other posts have stated, however, both types are much more problem free than balance systems from 20 years ago. I'm actually fine with either one.


I was just quizzing him. Don't give away all the answers.


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 Post subject: Only
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Hey I only gave away one answer . . .


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 Post subject: Re: constant force vs block and tackle
PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:22 pm 

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block and tackle is a lot quieter. constant force balances tend to be noisy as the coils are stretched and retracted on the rollers that are inside their keepers.


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 Post subject: Re: constant force vs block and tackle
PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:58 pm 
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I don't know that I've heard either on make much noise??? Here's my take: Constant Force= more even and effortless operation, Block and tackle: better for new construction, last longer. Either way: they are both decent, unlikely to have issues, and cheap to replace if they do.


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 Post subject: Re: constant force vs block and tackle
PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:15 am 

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i build both for a living. block and tackle are much quieter!


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 Post subject: Re: constant force vs block and tackle
PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:09 pm 

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I sell windows with both. Seems like most people like the constant force window better.


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 Post subject: Re: constant force vs block and tackle
PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 1:28 pm 

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Thanks for the above info.

I would add this one thing:
I feel that it's a lot easier to replace block and tackle balances when they do go bad.


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