Author: mark (---.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net)
Thank you for your post, as well. I think that this type of public forum can be an excellent way to educate both the consumer as well as the contractor, but it can be a double edge sword... I've read posts from people who dispise Certainteed and then recommend Anlin in the same post, oblivious that "Anlin Industries" is a former Certainteed manufacturer, for 10 years no less! (see www.anlin.com)... And for the record, I totally agree with you that Anlin, Polybau and Simonton are "top of the food chain" when it comes to vinyl windows as well as a few others out there including Certainteed. In my opinion Empire Pacific Windows and Milgard Windows should also be mentioned in the same breath, but I digress...and I think I might be starting to spam which is not my intention and I'm sure that there are many more window manufacturers that are right up there with the above mentioned.
Back to the lecture at hand! Licensed General Builders can not advertise as a window specialist as can a C-17. You are correct there. "Mosiacy Construction" (as an example) cannot be "Mosiacy Windows" without the C-17, but they can install windows as long as they follow the guidelines of the CSLB , which I'm sure is exactly what your friends do when they buy windows through you! Your own friends with General Contractors licenses are out there installing windows but I wonder if they've read your post regarding the issue of General Builders at the top of this thread and I quote "can they do windows skillwise, obviously. by the book? No."
Yes they can! They are using the guidelines that allow them to use "two unrelated trades" and I hate to use quotes for this, but for lack of a better term...the "loophole". If not, would you really allow your friends the General Builders to install windows without the C-17 license that you so passionately protect? Where does it say that the two unrelated trades must be part of a "major remodeling job"?
If I have taken anything out of context, I apologize. Here's the thing to cut and paste to your browser one more time for those of you who would like to really read it, unabridged: www.cslb.ca.gov/licensing/classifications.asp
As for calling the CSLB, good luck! It's like flipping a coin to see what answer they'll give you. The advertising point you made is valid. I'm waiting for a response in writing that will once and for all put this to rest from them and I will be glad to share it with you if it ever comes. I have written them!
Please do not say that all General Buiders can not install windows when you are out there bidding. It is misleading to the public.
And finally, E-z, of eazywindows.com, you are doing an execellent job and any contractor that offers help to someone who is doing a self installation by having them send you photos as you have in the past is all right in my book. Good luck to you and your father.
This thread is so long I think I'm just going to go into the textile industry!
PS, the end, no more, finished, caput... it's a dead horse!