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 Milgard or Certainteed
Author: Michele (---.libraries.claremont.edu)
Date:   

We are looking to replace 14 double hung windows in So. Cal. We wish to keep double hungs and are considering Milgard and Certainteed. Which would be a better choice?

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: george (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   

michele, im in the same situation,trying to find which is better. i also live in so. cal.it just seems to depend on who you talk to(rep.). certainteed is the one i keep hearing is slightly better,but looking for help to. if you find out please let me know. thanks

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: windowmann2000 (---.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net)
Date:   

Milgard wins hands down. Certainteed is ok but not in the same league as Milgard.

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: george (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   

windowman2000, what makes milgard so much better? could you elaborate.

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: windowmann2000 (---.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net)
Date:   

Depending upon where you live, the quality of Certainteed varies. In the upper Midwest I would'nt touch them and on the other hand the upper east coast fabricator does a good job. Certainteed which is now owned by a French Co. extrudes the vinyl and than sells the linals to an independent co called a fabricator. Each fabricator uses Certainteeds name for the window but is completely independant of Certainteed( try and resolve all that if you have a dispute) Each fabricator of which there are probably a hundred or more in the U.S. can use different materials in their overall assembly, for example many use the Swiggle Spacer between the glass which most seasoned pro's shy away from because of many problems in the past and too many of their fabricators have gone belly up because it is not Certainteed but again an independant concern. The Milw, Wi fabricator went out of business in the late 90's leaving a lot of people without any service and you don't get it from Certainteed because they didn't make the window. Midway in Chicago one of their larger fabricators just droped them completely and are now making a different window, and the list goes on.
Milgard a west coast co which is now doing business in about 75% of the country has a solid reputation for making a very high quality product including a Fiberglass window. If you want me to get into more specific's about thermal performance and how they compare test wise let me know.

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: george (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   

windowman,i appreciate your time and insight. i live in so. cal.,and the diffrent window people i talk to seem to be pushing certanteed. i'm wondering if its because they are making a better percentage. the ones i've talked to sell both. how do you rate both windows 1thru10. thanks again for your help.

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: windowmann2000 (---.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net)
Date:   

I know it's a pain but shop until you drop, it's the only way to get the insight you need. On a scale of one thru ten Certainteed is a 6 and Milgard a 9 in the vinyl world, and if the Certainteed has Swiggle---forget it in warm climates. Acceptable spacers include Intercept, Super Spacer and Cardinals system.

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: Michele (---.libraries.claremont.edu)
Date:   

Thanks for all the good info. The people we have been talking to also sell both and, althought they didn't really push one or the other indicated that they prefer working with Milgard. Windowmann, just wondering if they is any window you would rate a 10?

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: windowmann2000 (---.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net)
Date:   

No ten's yet but Milgard's getting pretty close with their fiberglass, and the Alside Preservation is pretty close.

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: george (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   

ok windowman,i'm having the window salesman coming back tomorrow with milgard and certanteed. i had 4 different estimates and this was the best overall feedback on the choice of windows. the salesman also seemed to be the most straight forward(not much b.s.). i also checked b.b.b. the company comes up satisfactory with 10+ years in business. although they did talk up certanteed without knocking milgard. what specific thing should i be looking for when comparing both side by side. thanks for your help

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: george (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   

windowman, you mentioned swiggle on certanteed in your last advice. what part is that on the window? im shopping til i drop, this window stuff is making my head spin. thanks for your patients

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: KndOcrazy (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   

Check out Andersen windows if you want a 10

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: windowmann2000 (---.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net)
Date:   

Swiggle is the spacer between the glass, it used to be black so easily spotted. Now I believe it's also made in gray in any event it's metal surounded with a sealant and it's track record in the past was not very good.

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: windowmann2000 (---.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net)
Date:   

You are kinda crazy if you rate Andersen a 10 especially if your referring to the Renewal, which is overpriced and under built. Maybe a 6---maybe.

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: Mikee (---.tnt2.oberlin.oh.da.uu.net)
Date:   

I agree, Anderson is definitely not a 10. A 6 is giving them too much credit also. Certainteed isn't a bad window as long as it's not swiggle. I'm not familiar with Milgard. Sorry I can't of much help.

Mikee

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: george (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   

windowman, thanks for all your help. i went with certanteed. based on the fact they are both comparable windows,i also liked the overall look of the window. they have a local company in anaheim ca. they should be in about 3 to 4 weeks. now i can only hope for the best. thanks again

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: Vinny (---.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net)
Date:   

Windowmann-
You sure sound like a Milgard dealer. Good info though on Certainteed....hope there's proof of all those accusations. in either case I would like to inform the public that there are many vinyl replacement window much better than the Milgard (Milgard uses metal aluminum spacers which is the worst material you can possibly use to seal your glass units). Milgard makes an ok window for buck but it is a fairly low end window. the best thing Milgards got goin for them is their name and size. Unfortunately your name and size doesn't make a high end to mid range window. Plus Milgard was bought out by a large French Corporation and they have been steadily increasing prices by about 6-8 % percent per year for the past three years.

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: Hugh Haines (---.mis.prserv.net)
Date:   

window man 2000, (a little off the subject) you said that acceptable spacers include Intercept, Super Spacer and Cardinals system. I am thinking of buying Anlin Catalina Vinyl windows and note that they have a stainless swiggle seal!? Is this a bad thing?

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: Fenestration Expert (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date:   

Pardon my interuption.. but it is an open forum. Swiggle sucks, it's antiquated. Anyone who takes the energy-saving (cost-reducing) industry seriously, will tell you that windows are the largest sole contibutor to the loss/gain in your home's shell... they are the weakest link. The spacer greatly affects performance... not only by conductivity (that's why most window dealers give center-of-glass R-values only), but when it fails... you lose your insulating gas and your Low-E soft coats.

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: george (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   

take it easy fenestration expert. ive gotten the most window info. from you and windowman. if you guys were in my area (so.cal.) id buy both of you a cold beverage.

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: kris (---.client.comcast.net)
Date:   

we have sold anlin catalina for over three years in the sacramento market. seal failures on their window (using swiggle) are far fewer then that of certainteed or milgard who both use intercept in this area. this is in spite of selling more anlin then the other two brands combined. The performance of the spacer is dependent on who's glazing the insulated units. my opinion, anlin is at the top of their game.

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: GHolmes (66.208.218.---)
Date:   

I've sold windows in the California market for 20 years and am now in the midwest.
Certainteed and Milgard are excellent choices for a vinyl window. Both companies strive to use the best technology available for the best price to the consumer, creating a oneupmanship attitude. Both are very agressive in a very lucrative market. Certainteed purchased a production facility in Corona, California giving them the ability to reach the So Cal market with a product that can be rush ordered with a 48 hour lead time. Milgard is in Simi Valley and has spent alot of time on its reputation as a high end vinyl window, which it is.

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: george (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   

thanks gholmes, i was stuck between both windows and decided to go with certanteed. i hope i made the right choice. i'll have them in, in about a week.

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: windowmann2000 (---.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net)
Date:   

George, I get out there every couple of years, so I'll be looking for that brew.
Vinny, I don't sell windows anymore, I just install them and never did sell Milgard, but have dealt with the co and liked their service responses, and are you sure you weren't referring to Certainteed being purchased by a french co instead od Milgard? And in the Midwest Milgard uses the intercept stainless steel system, not aluminum.
Hugh, that's not a good thing.
Fen Expert, ditto, Swiggle sucks.

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: Nancy (---.scinternet.net)
Date:   

Windowman -- My husband and I are building an oceanfront home on the southern Oregon coast and have been advised to go with vinyl windows (at least on the exterior). I've been pouring over literature from Certainteed, Milgard, Jeld-Wen, Marvin and Anderson -- a bit overwhelming. In addition to vinyl, I'm now reading about fiberglass. Winter storms on the coast include horizontal driving rains and winds of up to 100mph! Considering these conditions, which way would YOU go? Also, do you know of any problems (considering these weather conditions) with a vinyl or fiberglass exterior but WOOD interior? I need expert advice. Thank you.

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: Nancy (---.scinternet.net)
Date:   

Windowman, I'm impressed by the literature on Milgard's fiberglass (exterior) wood-clad (interior) windows for our oceanfront home in Southern Oregon. How would you compare Milgard to Marvin or Anderson -- both quality and price? We've been told that Anderson is not worth the price. Is Milgard much less?

 

 Milgard Fiberglass vs. Anderson
Author: Nancy (---.scinternet.net)
Date:   

Milgard's fiberglass/wood-clad windows look and sound terrific. My husband and I are building an oceanfront home in Southern Oregon. Does anyone have experience with fiberglass in a coastal environment? How does it compare with vinyl? How does Milgard's fiberglass/wood-clad windows prices compare with Andersons's vinyl/wood-clad windows?

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: E3ACJA (---.co.la.ca.us)
Date:   

Does anyone in this forum know what type of spacer material the Certainteed Somerton II uses in their spacer. I tried to find out in their website and the only technical information states that their Glass spacer technology is new (warm edge with low-conductance). I am replacing 34 windows and I want to find a good quality window. Also does anyone know anything about another window company by the name of California Delux Windows. I was quoted almost $ 30K for 34 windows, a set of french doors, and a slider. Does this sound reasonble. Thanks for taking the time to read this and responding.

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: kris (---.client.comcast.net)
Date:   

If your buying c'teed from their Corona, Calif. site then they use Intercept or "U" channel spacer. this may of changed after c'teed took over from their previous fabricator, Marshall Industries.

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: E3ACJA (---.co.la.ca.us)
Date:   

kris, when you said they used the Intercept spacer or U-shape. I take it these are two names for the same spacer. Also is the Intercept Spacer made by PPG? Bottom line I just need to know that Certainteed Somertone II windows are a good quality window and that their spacer won't fail a few years down the road. Also do you or anyone else know anything about a window company called California Delux Windows? Thanks again

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: Fenestration Expert (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date:   

The PPG intercept spacer is outdated in many respects as compared to other systems available with high conductance and minimal resistance to seal failure . It's performance is nominally better than the old aluminum spacers at best.

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: E3ACJA (---.temp.co.la.ca.us)
Date:   

Thank you for your response Fenestration. In your opinion will I be making a mistake buying the Somerton II window from Certainteed? If so what do you recommend.

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: Fenestration Expert (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date:   

I cannot say that it would be a mistake. It depends on what you are looking for. If you send five people into a pet store, they will all walk out with a different puppy. Decide on the features and performance you desire... then narrow those down by fit and finish... then ice the cake with the best installer. What are your top priorities of what you are looking for? In short, why are you changing your windows?

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: E3ACJA (---.temp.co.la.ca.us)
Date:   

Thanks for your quick response. Since I live in the Inland Empire in California it gets very hot but the winters are mild. So I am looking for a low-e window with a good quality spacer. But more importantly, a reliable window because the windows in this home I just purchased are failing-condensation because of the spacer. So in your professional opinion is Certainteed's Brym Mahr and Somertone II the same good quality windows and worth the money? or Should I keep looking? Thanks again

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: kris (---.client.comcast.net)
Date:   

take a look at Anlin windows (anlin.com). they've captured a good portion of the California market. Anlin was the c'teed fabricator for the Ca. market until about 4 years ago. their window has a better shgc (.27) reinforced stucco fin, double strength glass, and in my opinion a much stronger a more attractive frame. Warrenty service is also 1st class. you can view the warrenty on their website.

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed and other window comparison chart??
Author: deb (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   

I am debating between Milgard and CertainTeed. I picked up a "sales piece" from a dealer who seems to be exclusively CertainTeed which compared themselves to many other big name companies but I think they are really (trying) to compete strongly with Milgard in this geographic area. They claim to have "Even Sightlines, Easy Clean Tracks, Strongest Wheels, Double Weather stripping,Craftsman Style, Lock Indicator, Double Locks, Vent Stop, Weep Hole Covers, Inside Screen Frame" while Milgard has none of those and other companies only have some features. How much of that might be true and how much "spin"?

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: E3ACJA (---.co.la.ca.us)
Date:   

I decided to purchase the Certainteed Somertone II windows. The installers stated that removing the old existing frames is not necessary and if they are removed it can affect the overall structural integrity of the window. This seems to make sense to me but obviously I am no expert. In addition, with leaving the old frames in place there will be a reduction in the sight lines due to these windows being installed directly on top of the old frames. Can anyone tell me if I should have the old aluminum frames removed or should I tell them to leave them in there. I don't want to make a mistake.

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: george (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   

i just had certanteed put in. what ever you do, do not remove your old frames. you never know what can happen when you open a can of worms.

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: E3ACJA (---.169.32.45.Dial1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net)
Date:   

George, are you happy with your windows. Which Certainteed window did you install-the Brym Mawhr or Somerton II?. Have you had or heard anything negative about having the old frames removed? Thanks for your input.

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: george (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   

i am satisfied with the windows. i installed both. somerton II around the house with the brick mold,makes a huge diffrence and brym mawhr in the bathrooms(double hung). i was comparing certanteed with milgard and liked the fact when you compare side by side certanteed has even site lines. i also recommend the bric mold it makes it stand out that much more. good luck.

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: E3ACJA (---.169.32.45.Dial1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net)
Date:   

George, I am looking forward to having my new windows installed. I purchased the Somertone II. As far as the old frames, what do you know-should you remove them or not? Depending on who ask you hear different things. It makes sense if the old frames are in good condition why rip them out. However, I am no expert and a lot times we are at the mercy of others. So I just need objective and honest advice. Thanks

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed and other window comparison chart??
Author: george (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   

going back to what you were first told about ruining the integrity of the structure. i dont know how old your house is, but my house is about 40 yrs old. so the frames are set in pretty good. if you remove the old frames you'll end up with stucco damage, and if you have seen windows that have stucco damage it doesnt look to good. you'll be ok with the replacement window. are you in so.calif. if so, who's doing your windows? believe me i am no expert either but i asked questions and looked around till i was satisfied with what i liked. good luck.

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: E3ACJA (---.169.32.253.Dial1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net)
Date:   

George, my house is 9 years old and I was told that they will not ruin the stucco with an ezbar that they use if they remove the old frames. I live in Southern California-especifically the inland empire. thanks for your help.

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: Kelly (---.eli.net)
Date:   

We have a home facing southwest with 8 large windows the size of sliding glass doors on one wall overlooking the Columbia River. The windows need to be replaced and we are reviewing Milgard and CertainTeed windows. Currently, even with blinds pulled and air conditioning it's hard to maintain comfortable temperatures in the summer. What do you recommend? We don't want want to keep the home cool without obstructing the view. Also, the wood home was built in 89, would you remove the frames or just the glass? Thanks for your help!

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: doNOTbuycertainteed (---.oc.oc.cox.net)
Date:   

I have certainteed windows I had 14 installed so within 2 years, 5 have failed ( the labor warranty is only 5 years after that I must pay to have the CRAP lifetime warranty fixed)
DO NOT DO WHAT I DID AND PICK CERTAINTEED the only thing CERTAIN is getting hosed!!!!

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: doNOTbuycertainteed (---.oc.oc.cox.net)
Date:   

I have certainteed windows I had 14 installed so within 2 years, 5 have failed ( the labor warranty is only 5 years after that I must pay to have the CRAP lifetime warranty fixed)
DO NOT DO WHAT I DID AND PICK CERTAINTEED the only thing CERTAIN is getting hosed!!!! I live in so cal
you might check out ANLIN they have 10 year labor

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: doNOTbuycertainteed (---.oc.oc.cox.net)
Date:   

re guarding my experiance with Certainteed

I have certainteed windows I had 14 installed so within 2 years, 5 have failed ( the labor warranty is only 5 years after that I must pay to have the CRAP lifetime warranty fixed)
DO NOT DO WHAT I DID AND PICK CERTAINTEED the only thing CERTAIN is getting hosed!!!! I live in so cal
you might check out ANLIN they have 10 year labor

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: doNOTbuycertainteed (---.oc.oc.cox.net)
Date:   

you want proof on how crappy certainteed is
I have certainteed windows I had 14 installed so within 2 years, 5 have failed ( the labor warranty is only 5 years after that I must pay to have the CRAP lifetime warranty fixed)
DO NOT DO WHAT I DID AND PICK CERTAINTEED the only thing CERTAIN is getting hosed!!!! I live in so cal
you might check out ANLIN they have 10 year labor

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: doNOTbuycertainteed (---.oc.oc.cox.net)
Date:   

I have certainteed windows I had 14 installed so within 2 years, 5 have failed ( the labor warranty is only 5 years after that I must pay to have the CRAP lifetime warranty fixed)
DO NOT DO WHAT I DID AND PICK CERTAINTEED the only thing CERTAIN is getting hosed!!!! I live in so cal

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed and other window comparison chart??
Author: doNOTbuycertainteed (---.oc.oc.cox.net)
Date:   

I have certainteed windows I had 14 installed so within 2 years, 5 have failed ( the labor warranty is only 5 years after that I must pay to have the CRAP lifetime warranty fixed)
DO NOT DO WHAT I DID AND PICK CERTAINTEED the only thing CERTAIN is getting hosed!!!! I live in so cal
you might check out ANLIN they have 10 year labor

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: george (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   

i see your upset,but could you be more specific as to what failed. who installed the windows and are they fixing the problem, since its been less than 5 yrs. that they were installed.

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: george (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   

and what makes you recommend anlin

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: doNOTbuycertainteed (---.oc.oc.cox.net)
Date:   

the internal seal between the glass is leaking, causing fogging, or mildaw type growth inside.
Certainteed comes out to replace the glass on the windows ( takes the about 2 months to finaly get out here after problem is reported. ) The windows only have 5 year warranty on labor, so if windows continue to go bad like this the install cost on "lifetime warranty " will eventually exceed new windows for the new windows.
I am also looking for others who have had simular problems with certainteed windows , as I wish to go class action on certainteed, because I feel this is a manufacturing defect from the begining that shouyld not have a limit.

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: doNOTbuycertainteed (---.oc.oc.cox.net)
Date:   

At least they have a 10 year labor warranty on their windows. Also I spent 1 hour on phone with a supervisor from Certainteed main office in MA ( I requested a callback over a week ago). Was a a waste of time, except I found out they appeared to be aware of the high failure rates, and did not plan to do anything about it.

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: julie (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   

certainteed have a better customer service. my husband and i own a small window business in northern ca and have found milgard to have gone down hill with there warrenty service in the last year

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: gorkgork (---.chevrontexaco.com)
Date:   

I've read all the notes and pleased to see that I am not the only person having a hard time figuring out the best window to buy for the money. The salesman remind me of used car salesmen. Sorry if I offend anyone, I don't mean to. But they all have their favorites which understandably is driven by which one gives them the best profit margin. One Window guy brought an impressive book with copies of his licenses, insurance, previous customers by address and brand of window they bought. Most were Certainteed. The book also included a comparison and as expected Certainteed out did all the other brands listed. I showed this to another company who was pushing Milgard and he said that comparsion were not apple to apple because it only listed the name of the company and not the model. So he say they were comparing the top of the line Certainteed with the bottom of the line of Milgard. Who knows and frankly I beginning not to care. Has anyone heard of Internation Windows. I assume they are cheap quality because they are about 35% less than Certainteed. I too live in So. California, Inland Empire. Thanks.

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: ksgeyer (---.we.client2.attbi.com)
Date:   

Does anyone know anything about Milguard's vinyl? They don't guarantee their vinyl and someone told me it turns yellow after awhile?

 

 Certainteed windows won't close
Author: MK (---.dyn.sprint-hsd.net)
Date:   

We have Certainteed double hung vinyl windows which were installed in our 200 year old home in 1989. Gradually over the last few years several of them have gotten so tight they won't close completely. We can't find any way to adjust them. Is there a simple remedy we can try, or do we need to have a professionsal look at resetting them?

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: Rich (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   

I'm a window manufacturer in New York that only manufactures top of the line windows for public buildings ( MY designs are the highest rated in the industry).

If you want a top vinyl window there are better ones out there than Milgard and Certainteed who are just two of the biggest. Some of the smaller European brandfs are much better. Look for welded joints ( a must) and ask to see a cross section of the meeting rail sashes and then look at the wall thickness of the vinyl extrusions. Intercept is not a bad insulated glass spacer but it is the lowest cost to produce and that is why the large firms have switched to it since it has a large capital investment. Swiggle is not bad either but it is dependent on the skill of the operator who applies it and that's where the trouble lies. I've used swiggle for large commercial and institutional jobs with no problem while swiggle according to PPG is not reccommended for commercial or institutional use. Several firms i know use intercept for their low end projects and other methods for their higher end windows. Since you're all talking about residential homes, the intercept should be fine but i wouldn't discount the swiggle if applied correctly. Fiberglass windows are the wave of the future due to the many problems with vinyl window windows but it is not there yet and I think it has to be developed better first. Another feature to look at is the type of balance. Do not get coil spring balances. Hope this was helpful.

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: vince (---.dslextreme.com)
Date:   

I'm throwing a monkey into the wrench. I've been looking at Milgard vs. Certainteed, but was introduced to a new player in the So. Cal market called Poly Bau. Apparently they are an established German company trying to buy into the U.S.-So. CAl market. Their windows look awesome, no swiggle, 8 chambers...I saw them at a place called AllBrand windows, who also carries MilG and Cert. Anybody ever hear of Poly Bau?

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: vince (---.dslextreme.com)
Date:   

I'm throwing a monkey into the wrench. I've been looking at Milgard vs. Certainteed, but was introduced to a new player in the So. Cal market called Poly Bau. Apparently they are an established German company trying to buy into the U.S.-So. CAl market. Their windows look awesome, no swiggle, 8 chambers...I saw them at a place called AllBrand windows, who also carries MilG and Cert. Anybody ever hear of Poly Bau?

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: DS (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   

Yes, I have also heard the same about certainteed that they are better than Milgard.

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: David,Tony,Jim,Kim,Jennifer (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   

Would you like to talk Milgard or about other vinyl windows?

Give us a call!

Accent Window Systems

408 277-7777
Fax 408 277-7200

 

 Re: Milgard or Certainteed
Author: Bonnie (209.78.214.---)
Date:   

Hi,

We replaced our old crappy windows with Milgard about 2 years ago and we recently had the windows cleaned professionally. The gentleman found a defect in one of the larger windows. We contacted the contractor who installed them and Milgard replaced the window within a week, no questions asked. Their lifetime warranty on parts and labor is great. I'm a very satisfied customer who would recommend Milgard Windows, particularly in Southern CA.

Thanks,
Bonnie

 

 Re: Certainteed
Author: Edie Brigden (---.rev.o1.com)
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I hope that you will be able to help me.
I had two sets of patio doors replaced with Certainteed, These are 8 ft ones. I know that they are heavy but I cannot open them hardly at all. I am full of aches and pains from trying to get them open. Half the time they will not lock. I had the extra locks put in at the top. Thank goodness, I live alone and am 81 and they are killing me. When I look at the door. the top of it is not equal to the bottom of the door. that is when you open it a little. I have friends that have doors this big and theirs is easy to open. The company that I had put them in says there is nothing they can do to fix the problem I havae not paid them and not going to until they are fixed. I am really upset. I did pay a 420.oo deposit. i do hope that you can help me with this. I have called the Certainteed Co in Auburn, Wa. Please do help me with this. And what is a swiggle?
Sincerely, Edie

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