Harvey Classic vs Survivor 5600 vs AC 9500...please help

[kcote75]

I have spent the last week researching the board and I have gathered that the first 2 are known to SUCK.

I live in CT and our current wood windows are 50 years old and extremely drafty so anything will be an upgrade. (They also have double the lead value and peel each time they are opened and with 2 small kids this is not worth the risk)

My uncle is a carpenter who will be installing them himself as he's doing all the repairs on our home. I am on an extremely limited budget.

11 28 x 37-5/8
2 24 x 37-5/8
4 32-1/8 x 49-3/4
2 20 x 53-5/8
1 picture 52 x 53-5/8

The quotes I received were (could not find anyone who carried Simonton)

---also everything is Low E/agron and no grilles

ReliaBilt 5600: $2863
AC 9500: $3154
Harvey Classic: $4100
7D Industries $3300 (except nobody has heard of them really on this site)

Also received a Plygem Great Lakes quote but unfortunately it was out of our budget at $6300

Thanks very much

[kcote75]

Think I'm going to go with the Harvey Classics. Any thoughts as to my decision? Hope I'm doing the right thing, lol

Now I just need to do some more research on expander sills instead of angled and also see what the air infiltration and DP ratings are.

[kcote75]

For Low E/Argon no grilles (Both visible light is .54)

Harvey Classic
DP is 35
Air infiltration is .14
U-Value is .32
SHGC is .30

AC 9500
DP is 45
Air infiltration is .12
U-Value is .32
SHGC is .31


Harvey's cost an extra $1000 quoted

[gardenpartyfish]

For Low E/Argon no grilles (Both visible light is .54)

Harvey Classic
DP is 35
Air infiltration is .14
U-Value is .32
SHGC is .30

AC 9500
DP is 45
Air infiltration is .12
U-Value is .32
SHGC is .31


Harvey's cost an extra $1000 quoted

Even with block and tackle, the Harvey's will easily outperform and outlast the AC's. I prefer the Harvey Slimline. Very sleek and a good performer.

[kcote75]

thank you gardenparty. Should I be concerned about the low DP living on the water?

[gardenpartyfish]

thank you gardenparty. Should I be concerned about the low DP living on the water?

Classic Double Hung 44x60 0.19 cfm/sq. ft. 5.25 psf 52.5 psf DP35 H-R35
– Welded sash & frame 44x60* 0.14 cfm/sq. ft. 6.00 psf 60.0 psf DP40 H-R40
– STC 28
Slimline Double Hung 46x60 0.12 cfm/sq. ft. 5.25 psf 45.0 psf DP30 H-R30
– Welded sash & frame
– STC 28
Slimline Single Hung 46x60 0.12 cfm/sq. ft. 5.25 psf 45.0 psf DP30 H-R30
– Welded sash & frame
– STC 28
Signature Double Hung 56x90* 0.09 cfm/sq. ft. 6.00 psf 60.0 psf DP40 H-C40
– Mechanical sash & frame
– STC 27
Vinyl Casement 24x48 0.01 cfm/sq. ft. 12.0 psf 112.5 psf DP120 C-C120
– Welded sash & frame 32x60 0.11 cfm/sq. ft. 12.0 psf 67.5 psf DP45 C-C45
– STC 29 36x80 0.11 cfm/sq. ft. 12.0 psf 60.0 psf DP40 C-C40

DP-35 is fine unless you live in a constant high wind and coastal storm area. Harvey's Casement Windows typically have much higher DP's and some are as high as DP 120.