does the argon gas disappear?
does the argon gas disappear?
I was told my a window rep that the air in the spacing in a window is just as good as the gas because over a couple of years the argon gas disappears especially in the hotter climets (i'm in FL). Does anyone agree or disagree? The window he is proposing is manufactured by CWS (Custom Window Systems Windpact Plus Window) which has air in the spacing and does not have an option for the argon gas. I would appreciate any input. Thank you.
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Re: does the argon gas disappear?
Shocking that he would suggest that given that he doesn't have that option.gpzelcs wrote:I was told my a window rep that the air in the spacing in a window is just as good as the gas because over a couple of years the argon gas disappears especially in the hotter climets (i'm in FL). Does anyone agree or disagree? The window he is proposing is manufactured by CWS (Custom Window Systems Windpact Plus Window) which has air in the spacing and does not have an option for the argon gas. I would appreciate any input. Thank you.
He is wrong. There are certainly established gas leakage rates, however, depending on the efficacy of the spacer system, the gas will leak at such a slow rate that it will last for 20+ years.
Also, argon does add to the efficiency of the window when compared to air alone. Some estimate around 20%. Granted it is more beneficial in colder climates, increases in efficiency will still pay dividends in your situation as well.
avoid them?
So would you avoid a window that had air?
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Not necessarily, however, argon is a much better choice and I would avoid a salesman that doesn't tell the truth or know the truth.gpzelcs wrote:So would you avoid a window that had air?
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Re: does the argon gas disappear?
Windows on Washington wrote:Shocking that he would suggest that given that he doesn't have that option.gpzelcs wrote:I was told my a window rep that the air in the spacing in a window is just as good as the gas because over a couple of years the argon gas disappears especially in the hotter climets (i'm in FL). Does anyone agree or disagree? The window he is proposing is manufactured by CWS (Custom Window Systems Windpact Plus Window) which has air in the spacing and does not have an option for the argon gas. I would appreciate any input. Thank you.
He is wrong. There are certainly established gas leakage rates, however, depending on the efficacy of the spacer system, the gas will leak at such a slow rate that it will last for 20+ years.
Also, argon does add to the efficiency of the window when compared to air alone. Some estimate around 20%. Granted it is more beneficial in colder climates, increases in efficiency will still pay dividends in your situation as well.
I have read info which states 5-10 years is more likely the time Argon or Krypton will stay sealed in ANY window.
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Post that info up if you remember where it was from.gardenpartyfish wrote:Windows on Washington wrote:Shocking that he would suggest that given that he doesn't have that option.gpzelcs wrote:I was told my a window rep that the air in the spacing in a window is just as good as the gas because over a couple of years the argon gas disappears especially in the hotter climets (i'm in FL). Does anyone agree or disagree? The window he is proposing is manufactured by CWS (Custom Window Systems Windpact Plus Window) which has air in the spacing and does not have an option for the argon gas. I would appreciate any input. Thank you.
He is wrong. There are certainly established gas leakage rates, however, depending on the efficacy of the spacer system, the gas will leak at such a slow rate that it will last for 20+ years.
Also, argon does add to the efficiency of the window when compared to air alone. Some estimate around 20%. Granted it is more beneficial in colder climates, increases in efficiency will still pay dividends in your situation as well.
I have read info which states 5-10 years is more likely the time Argon or Krypton will stay sealed in ANY window.
There are some spacer systems that are very effective and I also think that the spacer performance and sealing effectiveness depends largely on the IGU type, temperature it is subjected to, and the window build quality.
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Re: does the argon gas disappear?
Here is Cardinals take on Argon in their glass units
website
www.cardinalcorp.com/data/tsb/ig/IG02.pdf
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www.cardinalcorp.com/data/tsb/ig/IG02.pdf
800-399-4623